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T.I. Sends Message From Prison In 'Remember Me' Video

Posted: 14 Jul 2009 03:51 AM PDT

Video, featuring Mary J. Blige, premiered Tuesday.
By James Montgomery


T.I. in 'Remember Me' video
Photo: MTV

On May 26, T.I. arrived at the Forrest City Federal Correctional Complex to begin serving a 366-day sentence stemming from his 2007 arrest on felony weapons charges. And while at least two mixtapes (one featuring Kanye West and Chris Brown) have hit the streets in recent weeks, we've heard nothing official from the man.

On Tuesday (July 14), Tip premiered the video for his duet with Mary J. Blige, "Remember Me," a song that leaked a couple of weeks before he went behind bars. The track is the first single from the re-release of his Paper Trail album, scheduled to hit stores next month (although those plans could change, according to a rep for Atlantic Records). But either way, the video is here, and it represents T.I.'s first official message from behind bars.

Of course, he recorded the song and taped the video before he began serving his prison sentence. But the video and the song were both made with the express purpose of letting T.I.'s fans (and detractors) know that the King may be gone, but he's not gone for good. And one day, in the very near future (like around May 30, 2010), he'll be back to reclaim his throne.

And to that end, the video (directed by Jesse Terrero, who's helmed clips for G-Unit, Don Omar and Daddy Yankee) opens with T.I. — clad in an orange Department of Corrections jumpsuit, hands cuffed behind his back — walking the halls of a dark penitentiary, being escorted to his cell by a prison guard. As he walks, he begins a somber soliloquy, telling the viewer that "it matters not how many times you fall down; what matters most is how many times you rise."

Then Mary J. Blige comes in to sing the hook, and the song kicks in the same way all of T.I.'s great tracks do — anthemic, rattling, ticking low end, with his sing-song cadence ducking and weaving between notes — and we're off and running. T.I. spits verses aimed at those who may have forgotten him (or anyone else in his position) while he was behind bars, or might be lining up to kick him while he's down: former friends, lovers, business associates, parents. We see scenes of various inmates' outside lives happening without them — friends laughing, wives cheating, mothers grieving — and we get a sense of the helplessness that they must feel. It's powerful stuff.

But the message is clear: All things must pass, and every obstacle will be overcome. The naysayers will be proven wrong, the King will reclaim the throne. If it sounds biblical, well, it sort of is.

T.I. returns at the end of the video to drive the point home. In a second soliloquy, he serves notice to all those who doubt him or have forgotten his place in the game. "Just a friendly message for everybody who thought I was gone forever: It's a year and day and counting, understand that?" he sneers. "By the time you hear this, I'll probably be halfway home. Now remember that, suckers."

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Kristin Cavallari Compares 'The Hills' To Filming A Movie

Posted: 14 Jul 2009 03:51 AM PDT

MTV show is 'more like hanging out with people you know rather than acting and memorizing lines and stuff,' she says.
By Jocelyn Vena


Kristin Cavallari
Photo: MTV News

Kristin Cavallari doesn't care what you think about her. For years, she made trouble and brought the drama as the resident mean girl of "Laguna Beach," and she was Lauren Conrad's foe long before Speidi came into the picture.

Now she's ready to come back to reality television and in an interesting turn of events, she will take Lauren Conrad's place on "The Hills." So while LC is busy being a best-selling author, Cavallari will be stirring the pot with the remaining cast of the show. And if you think now that she's an actress she'll be acting on the show, think again.

"It's not [scripted]," she told MTV News about the longstanding rumors that the show is not as real as it seems. "Everyone's going to have an opinion," the "Van Wilder: Freshman Year" star added. "And everyone's going to think what they want. You can't really change that."

Cavallari is quick to point out that life on set is completely different than life in the real world with cameras filming your every move. "It's definitely different," she said. "I love being on set and being in a movie. I think it's so much fun. And 'The Hills' or 'Laguna Beach,' it's more like hanging out with people you know rather than acting and memorizing lines and stuff."

"Van Wilder: Freshman Year," also starring "Mean Girls" actor Jonathan Bennett, comes out on DVD on Tuesday (July 14).

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Jay-Z Talks About Paris Jackson's 'Heartbreaking' Words At MJ Memorial

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 09:48 AM PDT

Hov also explains reason for cancellation of his Atlanta show on Sunday.
By Shaheem Reid


Jay-Z
Photo: Jerritt Clark/WireImage

It takes a big personality to stop a Jay-Z concert, and they don't get much bigger than the one who stopped Hov's show in Atlanta on Sunday night: Mother Nature. Jay's stop off at ATL's Chastain Park Amphitheater was cancelled due to poor weather.

"I pulled up to the venue, they said the rain was gonna continue for another three or four hours," Hov explained during a call to DJ Drama at Atlanta's Hot 107.9 radio station Sunday night. "I said, 'Well, I seen Diana Ross at Central Park in the rain [in 1983].' They said, 'Nah, it's a thunderstorm, you can't do that.' "

While on the radio, Jay joked that he was upset with Drama, Young Jeezy and Jermaine Dupri because they allowed the weather stop his show.

"I would never let in rain in my city. I got control over things like that," Hov laughed. Although the show was cancelled, Jay said he was hoping to make the date up when he gets a break in his schedule — he said he's looking at August 13 for a make-up date.

Jay also said he was prepared to give the fans in ATL a tribute to Michael Jackson during his set, as he did at previous stops on the tour.

"He's the greatest entertainer of all time," Jigga added. He said he did not see all of the Jackson memorial last week, but saw some the clips and was moved by Paris Jackson's words for her dad.

"I saw bits and pieces of it on the news," Jay said. "It's heartbreaking when you see his daughter. You realize he was their protective system. They were always with him and he always shielded them from the media. You realize they don't really know anything else. It's heartbreaking."

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Jessica Simpson And Tony Romo Break Up

Posted: 12 Jul 2009 11:29 PM PDT

Pair split up before Simpson's birthday last week, according to online reports.
By Jocelyn Vena


Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson in February 2009
Photo: Splash News

According to several online reports, Jessica Simpson and Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo have split up. Sources said the split happened on Thursday, a day before Simpson's 29th birthday.

"She is heartbroken," a source told People.com. "She loves Tony. But it's been difficult lately. He's busy with his career and she's getting ready to shoot her show ['The Price of Beauty,' for VH1]. They decided to part ways."

When asked for confirmation by MTV News, a rep for Simpson would neither confirm nor deny the reports, saying, "We don't comment on our clients' personal lives."

People.com also reported that on Simpson's birthday, Romo was seen partying at Los Angeles nightclub My House. "He had quite a few girls stop by his dance floor table," another source told the site. "Romo was sipping Grey Goose and having a fun time with the boys."

UsMagazine.com also reported that the couple have split, citing a source as saying, "It's been a long time coming." An additional source told the site that the couple could reunite at any time. "They go from one fight right into another, without a second's break. It's always something with Jessica."

The first source added that Simpson canceled her birthday party because of the split, but is doing "OK."

In the wake of the split, Simpson has been hitting up her Twitter account, relaying news that she canceled her birthday party but revealing little else that would seem to suggest a split. "Barbie party didn't happen, but I turned 29 and feel like I am on top of the world yelling I love getting older."

She later tweeted, "The beat of a heart can make you realize the special rhythm of a person ... just listen. I like the irregular beat; it send me to another place ... Everyone needs to know that hope floats ... grab the strings and pull it back to you."

The singer, 29, and Romo began dating in November 2007.

Recently, Simpson's ex-husband, Nick Lachey and his longtime girlfriend, Vanessa Minnillo, also broke up.

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Joe Jackson Says Michael Was Not Well Enough For London Shows

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 12:05 AM PDT

MJ's father and AEG Live trade barbs in press over O2 Arena concerts.
By Gil Kaufman


Joe Jackson
Photo: Frank Micelotta/Getty Images

If everything had gone according to plan, Michael Jackson would have kicked off his This Is It concerts, a spectacular, career-reviving series of greatest-hits shows at the O2 Arena in London on Monday (July 13). Instead, Jackson's family and concert promoter AEG Live are trading barbs in the press over whether the 50-year-old King of Pop was even healthy enough to perform any of the scheduled shows, to say nothing of 50.

"The comeback tour was a good idea, but the wrong idea about it," family patriarch Joseph Jackson said in an interview with ABC News. "Michael told me himself that he agreed to 10 shows. But they went and added all these other shows.   "I was worried about his health," Joe added. "No artist can do those many shows back to back like that, and so I knew Michael couldn't do all those shows without some rest in between them."

Michael's father and sister LaToya Jackson have proclaimed in recent interviews that they believe the singer might have been the victim of foul play. "I do believe it was foul play," Joe told ABC. "I do believe that. Yes."

LaToya told England's Mail on Sunday that she believes her brother was murdered by shadowy group of advisors who encouraged him to abuse drugs.

Another Jackson associate, former financial advisor Leonard Rowe (who is not related to Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe) told "Good Morning America" that even though the singer appeared full of energy in a brief rehearsal clip release by AEG following Jackson's death, the star was not well and physically unprepared for the grueling concert series.   "Michael Jackson was not ready," Rowe said. "He was not fit. If you can call weighing 110, 115 pounds fit ... no."

Jackson family representatives did not respond to calls for comment at press time. In a statement released to MTV News, AEG Live President and CEO Randy Phillips on Monday claimed Jackson had informed them that "he had no formal, informal or business agreements with Leonard Rowe."   Phillips said AEG was informed that Jackson had given "specific instructions not to involve [Rowe] with any matters concerning Michael Jackson or our relationship with him." Rowe told ABC that he never received the May 20 letter from Jackson severing their business association, adding that he was so concerned about Jackson's alleged addiction to prescription drugs that he called several Jackson family members in the days before the singer's death in an effort to set up an intervention.

"We planned to bring everyone together as soon as possible to get everyone onboard," Rowe said. "But we were just a little bit too late." He also rebutted Phillips' claims that the rehearsal clip filmed the night before Jackson's death was proof that the singer was in fine performance shape.

"Every move you see Michael Jackson doing on the rehearsal stage is a move I can do," Rowe claimed, noting the lack of some of Jackson's signature spins and more athletic steps.

Phillips told ABC that Jackson would have averaged just over two shows a week during the run of This Is It gigs, which were scheduled to wrap in March 2010, and that "if that was too many, then one would have been too many." In a statement, Phillips said that it was Jackson's request that the run of O2 gigs top out at 50.

"Our original agreement with Michael Jackson called for 31 shows," Phillips wrote in the statement. "It was our option as the promoter to only announce the first 10 concerts knowing that based on the response to the pre-sale, we could and would add the additional 21 shows to the initial on-sale. The pre-sale response was so overwhelming that we went back to Michael's representative at the time, Dr. Tohme Tohme, to inquire whether Michael would be willing to increase the number of shows. He reported that Michael was willing to increase the number of performances to 50."

Phillips said AEG did receive word from Tohme and Jackson that it was important to space the additional shows out over an extended period of time and that the company rent a nearby estate for the singer and his family so that they would not be "trapped" in a hotel suite while in London. "He told us he was also motivated by the opportunity to establish a record to be entered into the 'Guinness Book of World Records' for the run he was about to embark on," Phillips wrote.

Phillips also said in the statement that when he tried to change Jackson's mind about the length of the residency, "He told me to shove off."

Jackson's manager, Frank DiLeo, told ABC that the singer, whose age, gaunt appearance and long history of medical issues caused some to question whether he had the wherewithal to complete such a long engagement, was not being pushed in the lead-up to the O2 shows. "He built up his stamina," DiLeo said of Jackson, who was training with former bodybuilder and original "Incredible Hulk" star Lou Ferrigno. "There would have been no problems, I don't think, with him doing this tour. Nobody was pushing him into it. Nobody was overworking him. You know, all those reports are false."

For complete coverage of the life, career and passing of the legendary entertainer, visit "Michael Jackson Remembered."

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Does Gucci Mane Belong On Our 2009 Hottest MCs List?

Posted: 14 Jul 2009 03:51 AM PDT

Plus: Lil Boosie and Hurricane Chris 'clique up'; Rich Boy wants people to 'party instead of get violent,' in Mixtape Daily.
By Shaheem Reid


Gucci Mane
Photo: MTV News

His fans are yelling for Gucci Mane. "Goocheee!," to be exact. He's been doing it this year. Man — 2009 is halfway over already? The years go by so quick. As always, though, we're here to document everything. All this week, in addition to our regular coverage, we're going to be highlighting all the impact players in the mixtape circuit so far this year. Who had the biggest mixtape? What MC was the most consistent? What albums have we kept in rotation? Rappers, DJs, producers, shows — we've got the best of the best of this year thus far. Stay with us all week.

Don't Sleep: Necessary Notables

Mixtape: Bad Azz Hurricane

Headliners: Lil Boosie and Hurricane Chris

Key Collaborations: The entire tape is a joint effort, but listen for "Chest Wide Open," "Deebo" (word to Tiny "Zeus" Lester) and "Hate to Hear Our Name" (if only for the intro to the record alone — LOL!)

Essential Info: We know how popular Lil Boosie and Webbie are down bottom, but Mr. Bad Azz is coming with a different connect this time around: Hurricane Chris.

"All of us was doing our thing in Louisiana, [me and Boosie] came to the point where we said we got to lock up and smash," Hurricane said. "We started smashing our area, and it started going nationwide. We got real unity. Louisiana been doing it. We had to clique up and connect. The mixtape was the first one. The mixtape is like an album, though.

"We're like family," HC added of Boosie. "He's a real dude, and he's like a man of his word. He knows my people, and I know his people. I know his mama. When we go in the studio, it's like peanut butter and jelly. We go right in, and it's fun. It's not even work to us. The life we live is a whole album. A day with me and Boosie is like a DVD. We go in the studio, it's easy. It's cake work. We work, baby."

Hurricane said he wants to work with Webbie one day as well. "I ain't never got on nothing with him," he said. "I'm looking forward to getting on something with him whenever he's ready, I'm ready."

Boosie and Hurricane are going to drop more mixtapes and eventually do a group LP. "It's finnin' to get real drastic," Hurricane forecasted. "There's a lot of people that thinking they're running it with the mixtape game. We finnin' to lock in. We got a million more. Get ready for that, and get mad about it. Boosie and Hurricane.

Hurricane's solo LP, Unleashed, comes out August 18. "I got some bangers on there. Boosie on there, Busta Rhymes on there, Beenie Man on there twice, Ludacris, Plies, Mario — it's jamming. The whole nine."

Hurricane's follow-up to "Halle Berry" is a club track called "Roc-A-Late" and a song with Sean Kingston for the ladies called "So Excited."

Mixtape: Kool-Aid, Kush & Convertibles

Headliner: Rich Boy

Songs We Can't Stop Playing: "Put Me in the Game," "Convertible Status" and "Send For Me"

Essential Info: Rich Boy said he stopped sipping on syrup and went back to Kool-Aid. Real talk. Of course, he had his herbal stimulant handy as well. "In the recession, people still wanna have fun," Rich Boy said about his mixtape title. "They can't have big-boy fun. I said I'mma keep it simple."

Rich and his producer Super Villain built songs in a Mississippi studio and sent them out to DJ Scream. Scream and Rich have been connected longer than they originally knew. "We didn't know each other, but we both went to the same college, Tuskegee," Rich recalled. It wasn't until years later that they would link up at a 2008 party at an ATL club and decide to knock out a tape. Rich and Super Villain would record in Mississippi and send the tape out to Scream in GA via e-mail.

"I like the records that make you wanna party instead of get violent," Rich said. "That's what I was trying to do with the mixtape — calm violence down a little bit. We're cooking it up. I wanna show people I'm stepping up my game."

Part two is coming out with Scream later this summer, and Rich also has a mixtape with Bigga Rankin dropping soon as well. If he doesn't make a fourth-quarter release date, Rich said to look for his album Buried Alive in February.

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Mid-Season Salute: Gucci Mane

Brrrr! The hustle is cold. This year, Gucci Mane has been on the most-active-MC list. There's a bunch of Gucci mixtapes in the streets, and now his sound has translated from the trap to the pop charts. Mariah Carey, Mario and Black Eyed Peas all know the deal. They've called in the Gucc for guest appearances.

Like it or not, with the 'hood and 'burbs jockin' this Atlanta native, we had to call him out here in Mixtape Daily for being one of the impact players in 2009 thus far.

So only two questions are left surrounding Gucci's rise: Can he deliver a classic album, and is he hot enough to land on our Hottest MCs in the Game list this year?

"I watch it, you know what I'm saying?" Gucci said in Atlanta of the infamous list. "I be wishing I was on there. I would love to be on there [this year]. If I don't [make it], I respect them. Most of the time they have them [lists] down to a science. You have to earn that."

List or no list, Gucci said he's going to stick to his high-output work ethic.

"I won't say I'm the best rapper in the game," he admitted. "I'm not even my favorite rapper in the game. But I say I am probably one of the hardest-working people in the music business. That's what I pride myself on [and blame] having success on, just being consistent."

For other artists featured in Mixtape Daily, check out Mixtape Daily Headlines.

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Exclusive: Ryan Ross Talks About Leaving Panic! At The Disco

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 04:06 AM PDT

'It got to the point where there might have been too many cooks in the kitchen,' the guitarist tells MTV News.
By James Montgomery


Ryan Ross
Photo: Gary Wolstenholme / Redferns / Getty Images

Last week, fans were shocked when news broke that Panic! at the Disco were parting ways with guitarist Ryan Ross and bassist Jon Walker, who left the band to "embark on a musical excursion of their own."

But according to Ross, the split had been in the cards for sometime now. It just took everyone a while to realize it.

"It's been a little while, a few months since we started thinking that this might be the best thing to do," Ross told MTV News late Monday (July 13). "Jon and I had been writing a bunch of stuff on the road, and it just got to a point when we were off tour, when we were talking about getting together and working on this stuff, that it became pretty apparent that we all weren't wanting to go in the same direction. There was a period where we weren't really talking to each other all that much, and Jon and I were just living at my house and continuing to write. And we kind of realized we needed to get over not speaking and figure out what was actually going on. So we all sat down and pretty much came to the conclusion that the best thing for everyone was to do what we did."

Ross said the split was largely due to creative differences between him and Panic! frontman Brendon Urie. Seems Urie wanted the band to explore a more polished pop sound (like the demo they posted on their Web site last week), while Ross — and, by extension, Walker — was interested in making retro-inspired rock.

Or, as he put it: "Brendon's more of a Peter Gabriel fan, and I'm more of a Ray Davies fan."

"Brendon has always been a fan of pop music, but that's such a broad term, because I guess I would say I would be too, but in a different way. Jon and I are still very much influenced by the Beatles and Beach Boys stuff and the Kinks and stuff like that," Ross said. "And so that's the stuff we were writing at my house ... that's the stuff we're going to make now. I haven't heard any of Brendon and [drummer] Spencer [Smith]'s stuff, to be honest."

And eventually, those differences — coupled with the lack of communication between both camps — came to a head. So late last month, Ross had lunch with Smith, and the two cleared the air, both realizing that perhaps the best thing for all parties involved was to just head their separate ways.

"Spencer and I had lunch and caught up for a while, and then the big question came up, like, 'Well, what do you want to do?' and I said, 'Well, I think it might be best if we kind of do our own think for a while,' and he said, 'I'm glad you said that, because I was going to say the same thing,' " Ross recalled. "And there was really no argument, which is really the best way that could've worked out. ... I think really everybody will be happy doing what we're doing. Me and Jon are really excited about what we're working on, and those guys are happy too. I guess it got to the point where there might have been too many cooks in the kitchen."

Ross made it clear that the split was very much an amicable one. He said that while he hasn't heard any of the new Panic! stuff, he wishes Urie and Smith well and still considers them both to be his friends (they spoke over the Fourth of July weekend). The same cannot be said, however, about his former boss — Decaydance Records honcho/ Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz — who seems to have clearly aligned himself with the Urie/Smith camp following the split.

"I haven't spoken to him in a while, since this happened. I guess I've been meaning to call him back. He called me, but I've missed a lot of phone calls this week," Ross said. "We're not sure [whether Ross' and Walker's new band will be on Wentz's Decaydance Records]. I'll have to talk to him, but obviously from what's happening online, I think he's ... he's written a lot about them. I don't know if they're working together on their stuff. I'm not really sure, but it's been awhile since we've spoken. It's strange. It's kind of weird."

At press time, Wentz hadn't responded to MTV News' request for comment.

And though his relationship with Wentz might be finished, Ross still considers the split from Panic! to be a "good, healthy" thing. He said he and Walker are writing and recording songs (with Pretty. Odd. producer Rob Mathes) at a lightning-quick pace, and they'll soon be revealing the fruits of their labor. The only thing that bothers him, he said, is the way many Panic! fans have treated him since the split. It seems that he's become the bad guy in the whole scenario, and he doesn't think that's fair.

"That was probably the worst part, at least for us, knowing people were going to be upset," he said. "I hope nobody blames anybody. It seems like, because those guys are sticking with the name, that it looked like it's mine and Jon's fault. I think a lot of people blamed us for quitting or ruining the band, and that part didn't really seem fair, because it wasn't the case. ... Musically, it got to a roadblock, and we were going one way and they were going the other. But fans will be able to hear it soon enough. And then maybe they'll change their minds."

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Did Game Go Too Far With Jay-Z Dis?

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 04:51 AM PDT

Our hip-hop experts wonder if Jay will fire back at the Compton MC, in Off the Dome.
By Shaheem Reid


The Game
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If you've been keeping up with hip-hop for the past week and change, Game didn't surprise you when he dropped the Jay-Z dis record "I'm So Wavy" this weekend. (Well, maybe Game's references to Kanye West's girlfriend, Amber Rose, caught you off guard.)

Game has never been shy about throwing darts. From his quarrels with the G-Unit to the Compton MC calling out video vixens, Game spits. This time, though, he's going against somebody he's cited as one of his influences. It's going to be interesting how things pan out.

Rather than just report the news, I decided to team up with my partner Rahman Dukes to do what we do every day: talk about what's going on in hip-hop. Now, we're letting you inside the inner realm of MTV News' hip-hop team.

"Jay's been a huge influence on him, as Jay has the entire hip-hop game," I told Rahman. "I guess this is a case where you're Kobe Bryant and you want to go up against Jordan."

My P.I.C. Mr. Dukes wasn't sure if Young Hov would respond. We both appreciate what Game and Jigga bring to the table, but Rahman felt that Game playing Jay because of his age isn't a strong point in the dis song.

"My thing was like, 'Jay ain't gonna respond to him,' because he wasn't talking nothing new," Rahman argued. "But you keep throwing all that Beyoncé talk in, I think homie might jump in there. I think Jay probably should just fall back from it. One thing I will say that I'm not appreciative of, and I don't think that anybody — especially a rapper, somebody that's responsible for pushing the culture along — it doesn't make sense to dis somebody because of their age. We should be celebrating how old Jay is and he's still in the position he's in. Same thing with LL. Rap is the only genre where you run into these issues."

"You have to keep moving the culture along," I told him. "How you gonna tell somebody 38, 39, even 40 years old you have to retire? ... Jay is one of the, if not the, nicest on the mic right now. You can't fault him for wanting to make music. But I just heard an interview with Jay and DJ Drama. [Jay] says he's closing the Blueprint 3 out right now. ... I'm thinking we're gonna hear a response."

Now you know what we think — what are your thoughts? Do you think Jay will fire back at the Game? Post your comments below.

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Exclusive: Debbie Rowe In Her Own Words

Posted: 12 Jul 2009 10:11 PM PDT

Read MTV News' complete interview with Michael Jackson's ex-wife, mother of Paris and Prince.
By James Montgomery, with reporting by Rebecca White


Debbie Rowe
Photo: MTV News

In early 2008, MTV News received a pitch from a writer named Rebecca White, who said she was good friends with Debbie Rowe, the mother of Michael Jackson's first two children (Michael Joseph Jr., a.k.a. Prince Michael, and Paris and his wife for more than three years. White said she had been invited to Rowe's horse ranch near Palmdale, California, and that Rowe was interested in doing an on-camera interview.

Obviously, we were interested in making it happen.

So, on April 6, we sent White and a crew to Rowe's ranch. To be honest, we didn't know what we'd find when we got there. Since divorcing from Jackson in 1999, Rowe had retreated to the dusty hills, having granted custody of the children to Jackson (a decision she has said she may contest in the wake of Michael's death, since Michael's mother was recently appointed their temporary guardian) and returned to her first passion: raising and training horses.

So when White sat down with Rowe, she was (rather understandably) reluctant to speak about her marriage to Jackson and her relationship with their two children. When pressed about either subject, she changed the topic or — in a couple of instances — declined to answer the question.

Instead, Rowe spent the majority of the interview reminiscing about the time before she became an unwilling popular-culture figure — back when she was Debbie Rowe, dermatologist's assistant. She spoke about her lonely childhood and her early love of animals, and about her strained relationship with her mother. She spoke about working with Arnold Klein, the dermatologist who has been rumored to be the biological father of Prince and Paris (a charge he has essentially denied). And she also spoke briefly about the first time she met Michael Jackson.

She talked at length about her horses, about raising them and caring for them and finding solace in them. When read in full, the interview is a rather fascinating glimpse at a woman who could never truly escape the media, no matter how hard she tried.

So, in the interest of giving you a rarely seen glimpse behind the curtain, we're presenting the interview in its entirety. It's Debbie Rowe, as you've never heard her before: on her own terms and in her own words.

MTV: Tell me about your life before "Debbie Rowe" and after "Debbie Rowe."
Debbie Rowe:  I've always been Debbie Rowe. It started in Washington. My dad was in the service. We lived in Alaska and Nebraska and Riverside and Los Angeles, and then I moved to the Valley when I was 18  — "OHMIGOD!" — and lived there until I was ...

MTV: Were you a Valley girl?
Rowe: [Only] because I lived there.

MTV: Did you do the "likes" and "you know"?
Rowe: No, never did that.

MTV: Did you have high hair?
Rowe: No. You can look at my high school picture, it's the same hair. It's sad, I'm not one for change. I'm good with routine. I'm consistent, which is what I am doing with riding. I told my trainers I want consistent cadence, and then I think I can do Rookie of the Year. That's the big goal. I'm going to be 50 at the end of this year. When the Futurity happens in November, I will be 50 still and I want to be Rookie of the Year if I can, for reining.

MTV: Alright, 18 years old.
Rowe: Went to Valley College, decided I didn't want to do that.

MTV: What was your family like? You were always moving?
Rowe: We moved every two and a half years because my dad was with the Air Force.

MTV: Brothers and sisters?
Rowe: Older sister, younger brother, older half sister.

MTV: All lived in the same house?
Rowe: No. Didn't know I had a half sister until I was 12 or 13. So that was interesting.

MTV: What does your mom do?
Rowe: Am I supposed to be nice?

MTV: You're supposed to be truthful. Rowe: She was breathing. Let's just leave it at that. Like I said, I [had] 11 dogs, 32 horses, a Go Away sign above my bed — I have no issues.

MTV: Now with Michael Jackson and the tabloids. We'll get to that.
Rowe: No we won't. I came out here to get away from everything, to do the horses.

MTV: And you want to leave that in the past?
Rowe: It is the past. So I just let it go.

MTV: Do you regret anything?
Rowe: No. If you regret anything in your life, then you haven't learned any lessons. Not that I had to learn any lessons from anything, but, no, there isn't anything that I would do differently. Maybe [there were] a couple of horses I would [have] bought when I had the chance, but no.

MTV: Could you talk to us about meeting him?
Rowe: I don't want to.

MTV: First impression?
Rowe: Well, I had his poster on my walls as a child. We're not going there ... move on, honey.

MTV: Cut to moving up to Palmdale.
Rowe: Cortile, beautiful, windy Cortile. Moved here because I had five horses and was driving all day to different trainers to work them out.

MTV: And you were still living in Beverly Hills?
Rowe: Yep, and I decided I need my horses here. And Carmen, who is my people, she had a daughter that lived up here and said let's move up here, and fortunately I had some friends that bought my house so I could move up here. This house came on the market, I saw it, and the way it was set up was perfect for the horses I had. And Christine and Steve were all over it, and they said OK, and they hadn't even put their house up for sale.

MTV: Was moving up here the way to get away, to be with the horses, to start a new chapter?
Rowe: I don't think I have segments in my life, it runs all together. I think everybody does. You do different things at different ages, but everybody goes through the exact same thing whether you ... if I were 16, "Daddy, I want a pony." Everybody goes through the same things at different points of their lives, and it's my time to be up here. And I like being by myself.

MTV: Do you get bothered up here?
Rowe: No. I do miss the social part of working, but that's about it.

MTV: But I mean, I would think, with the horses, you're up first thing in the morning and you do it all yourself.
Rowe: I have two people that help me, and when the vet's here, the vet's here, and when the shoer's here, the shoer's here. ... And I am starting to take one of the horses here to Fort Tejon to ride three times a week, so it's going to be a lot busier. But it's all a means to an end.

MTV: What's the end?
Rowe: Rookie of the Year. And to have a horse that I have bred that does something, be it my very first thoroughbred which, yay, it's a boy ... not that boys are better than girls, but you see more of them on the track in a winning situation, or as a reiner or a cow horse.

MTV: What would be your proudest moment?
Rowe: I think it depends on what ... I think everything. I'm proud of everything I do. I don't mean to be prideful. I'm not prideful. I'm not arrogant.

MTV: No, you're not arrogant at all.
Rowe: Good, thanks. But I don't think there's anything I'm not proud of. I'm happy with pretty much everything I've done.

MTV: And the new babies ...
Rowe: Yes, two on the ground, three to go. Breeding four more this week.

MTV: Prepping these guys to be something great? This is a business you're running. ...
Rowe: Yep. I have all foundation-based mares, which means their bloodlines go back. They're solid. I'm introducing new bloodlines and hoping that I get that right ... baby that not only is pretty but ... Pretty is as pretty does, any way you look at it. But hopefully just pretty will do.

MTV: If you could be remembered for one thing, or there's something that someone might think about you, what would it be, Debbie Rowe? Horses?
Rowe: Yeah. I was Debbie Rowe, Dr. Klein's nurse, for 20-some-odd years.

MTV: Do you still talk to him?
Rowe: Yeah.

MTV: Is he still in business?
Rowe: Yeah. Still there. Sharp as a tack. Amazing. You're nobody unless you're a patient with him. I've always felt that way with him, and I've always told him that. I said, "Unless someone has a file in your office ... they haven't gotten there yet." Then again you have to try and get an appointment there with him.

MTV: Could you get an appointment with him?
Rowe: Probably not. [She laughs.] That's OK.

MTV: You don't need it.
Rowe: Not yet.

MTV: In one word, your life, definitely "normal."
Rowe: Thank you.

MTV: There's not much about you that you hide. I would go away from here saying that you're real.
Rowe: Thanks. I don't know that I even want to be remembered. I mean, I do and I don't. I don't know ... let's see ... Rookie of the Year. Right now that's all I want to do. I want to focus on that. I want to lose the weight. I want to not have my horse tremble when I bring the saddle towards him. I want to do the work and be an accomplished horsewoman.

MTV: You mentioned to me that you thought it was not going to be such a big deal, the choices that were made.
Rowe: It's not my big deal. This is a big deal. These are two very big deals. [She gestures toward the horses.]

MTV: The other stuff not so much.
Rowe: To some people, for whatever reason, but not to me.

MTV: Was it tough on you? Was it harder than ...
Rowe: Are you going back to those things? Oh my God ...

MTV: I'm talking about you! I've seen it happen to people. I've been through it a little bit. It's a little bit more eye-opening. ... The people around you tend to change. The people that you thought you could trust tend not to be so trustworthy.
Rowe: Ya think?

MTV: I would go and do exactly what you did — be like, "I'm good on my own. ..." Was that the toughest part?
Rowe: I still clean house emotionally probably every six months to see what's up. There's less to clean up now than there was. I'm still very naive about stuff. Obviously, you are here. Let's see how this comes back to bite me in the ass. I want to think that ... I truly want to think that people are good. So far, I'm having ... I'm still looking. So I don't know.

MTV: Do you think people think things of you before they know you?
Rowe: Everybody does.

MTV: They read and then they think — it's a backwards way about things.
Rowe: Yeah. But it's kind of cool when [someone says], "Oh, I didn't know that was you." That means I haven't changed. People who have known me for a long time say I haven't changed. This is back to where I was.

MTV: People who know you the best, would they say that you're constant?
Rowe: Yeah. Throughout the whole thing, I've been pretty constant.

MTV: Have you ever wanted to shut the doors?
Rowe: I did that for years.

MTV: Really? You don't seem like the type to back down from ...
Rowe: It's intimidating. It's scary if it's something you didn't bargain for and something you don't want. I don't understand people who want that kind of attention. I don't get it.

MTV: And sometimes they ask for it. I can think of a couple people out there in the spotlight that really want that attention and go for it, and that was something really new to you.
Rowe: Yeah.

MTV: Didn't want it.
Rowe: No. Still don't want it. Except ... I guess I'm using you. I am using you to further my horsemanship.

MTV: That's OK.
Rowe: Do you feel used? [She turns to the camera.] Do you feel used?

MTV: Yes, but I like it.
Rowe: It's a good use. You just want a ride. You just want a ride. My horse is over there getting fat. Matika, you don't need it. It's like, "Have another Ho-Ho!" Jeez!

MTV: Well, I don't want to beat a dead horse. ...
Rowe: Shhh! There are no dead horses!

MTV: Is there such a thing as a glue factory?
Rowe: I think there is. People actually eat horse meat. They just closed ... I don't know all the details. I could be wrong. My understanding is they just closed the last horse-meat factory in California. And now there's a huge thing to export horses to Arizona, places like that. I have some friends from Belgium who told me they eat horse meat. It was like, "Dude." You have a floppy string and it's doing this [She waves her arms.]. I told you not to wear the hoodie.

MTV: I like the hoodie, Mom!
Rowe: Just wrap it around your ta-ta and call it a day. I'm bleeding. Where am I bleeding from? Blood, anyone?

[Someone off camera says, "From inside one of your index fingers, we think."]

Rowe: You're right. You know what? I have been washing horses and I'm allergic to water. Tourniquet! Please, a tourniquet! Ambulance? Little attention here? Little help? Better now. What about you, Rebecca White?

MTV: It's not about me. It's about you, Debbie Rowe.
Rowe: No, it's about the horses. It's about Painted Desert Ranch. It's about Rookie of the Year. It's about the trainers.

MTV: Can we come back after Rookie of the Year?
Rowe: You need to come back before Rookie of the Year. It's a process. You haven't seen anything very cool until you've seen someone practically Velcroed to a saddle.

MTV: What does it take to become Rookie of the Year?
Rowe: Lots of riding. Lots of trainers telling you things repeatedly, daily. Like within a 60-minute period, repeatedly.

MTV: You're up for it?
Rowe: Yeah.

MTV: It there a particular horse you have in mind?
Rowe: His name is the Rock in Hollywood. He is a 10-year-old black buckskin. ... He's a Hollywood Dunnit. He's right now in Burbank. We're bringing him up here so I can do more riding. Then I'll be looking for another horse. He's a little too old. He's my school horse. I'm just learning how to do reining. It's difficult. It's coordinating, and I'm not ... I took ballet, I think, just to learn to fall gracefully.

MTV: Have you ever gotten hurt?
Rowe: My pride. Getting dumped and you feel stupid. No, you can get hurt, but ... I don't do everything by the book. I'm sure I open myself up to getting hurt a lot more because I treat my babies like dogs.

MTV: They are your babies.
Rowe: I literally treat the baby horses like they're golden retrievers, and then when they're off their moms ... no discipline. "What happened? You were so sweet. Then you grew up."

MTV: Just like any kid, right?
Rowe: I'm gonna assume.

MTV: I won't go there. You just might smack me. I'm not going to go into the stuff you don't want to talk about. I think we've done the horses. Anything else you want to talk about?
Rowe: Well, no. I don't know. This is like a test. This is like being in school and it's a test. Like a pop quiz.

MTV: Name the president of the United States.
Rowe: Now? Bush. I saw that on the news today. I'm good. [She laughs.]

MTV: Who are you going to vote for?
Rowe: I don't vote for federal. I only vote local.

MTV: Why?
Rowe: I know it's stupid and people would fight me on this, but I don't think my vote in the grand scheme of things makes a huge difference. And I'm more concerned with what affects me here than later on. That's why I elect the local people, so they do what I supposedly want.

MTV: Do the locals leave you alone?
Rowe: Yeah. There are great people up here. Really great people up here.

MTV: They don't care?
Rowe: No. Everyone's got their own life up here, so it's cool. It's very cool.

MTV: Is it true that one of your dogs almost killed a paparazzo?
Rowe: [She nods.] Trespassing.

MTV: Word to the wise.
Rowe: Word to the wise: I have dogs. Ask Yasmine [from MTV News, who was bitten by one of the dogs]. She met one. Her calf met one. Her calf is now mooing. This will be good in court.

MTV: All right, boys.

[Debbie interacts with the guys off-camera.]

MTV: Pop culture. Let's go there. What's your favorite TV show?
Rowe: It was "Grey's Anatomy." Then the writers went on strike. Kinda dwindled. "Men in Trees" is pretty good. Now they're changing that story line. "Dancing With the Stars"!

MTV: Who's your favorite?
Rowe: No one this year. Kristi Yamaguchi is going to win, hands down. She's the athlete, she's the dancer on ice.

MTV: "American Idol" fan?
Rowe: Uncle Bob comes up. We watch it in New York time so we can go out and have dinner. We are by the TV at 5:00 so Uncle Bob can watch "American Idol." He says, "I don't care. I just want to see who gets kicked off." Why are we sitting here for 90 minutes? It's Tuesday. If we don't care until tomorrow and it's Tuesday, why are we on the couch?

MTV: Because they can get you on the couch.
Rowe: Having a glass of wine, the dogs and "American Idol."

MTV: Is that your perfect night?
Rowe: No.

MTV: What's your perfect night?
Rowe: Perfect night is not staying up to wait for a baby to come. A perfect night is going to bed by 8:00, watching an hour of the news, checking the TiVo to see if there's anything I missed that's worth watching. If I'm not really tired, I'll read. Because I have to wear glasses now. I am over 40. Once you hit 40, you have to wear glasses.

MTV: You're hitting 50 this year.
Rowe: Fifty, the big 5-0. So I'll have to wear two pairs of glasses. And then getting up at 5:30.

MTV: Do you listen to music?
Rowe: Yes, I listen to everything except rap or heavy metal.

MTV: What's on your iPod?
Rowe: Right now I'm listening to "The Narrows" by Michael Connelly. It's endless. No offense, Mr. Connelly, but this book is just endless.

MTV: Books on tape?
Rowe: Yes, unabridged. When I drive to Arizona, I can get through a book. Usually there and back.

MTV: Favorite movie?
Rowe: I just got — and it's in the truck — I just got "Sweeney Todd." I'm looking forward to seeing that. I don't go to the movies. I'm one of those people that, unless someone says, "You have to see this on a huge screen because it's going to lose something at home." Then you might be able to talk me into going. The last movie I saw was the remake of "The Omen." Oh no, worse than that! I went to Oklahoma City for the Futurity and Travis Percy was with me. And Travis was exhausted. The Percys live up here. They're wonderful people. I met them through my vet. One of my horses had to have surgery. It was an emergency. They came at 10:30 at night, not even knowing me, with a huge trailer. And they said, "Let's go to Moorpark," which is about 90 miles from here. So Travis, he's a cowboy. Nicest, nicest kid. The whole family is wonderful. So I said, "Travis, I'm going to Futurity and I don't want to go alone. Do you want to go with me?" Talk about an accent. He is so cute. He's about as tall as you. They have property there. Amazing family. So Travis and I go, and it was the movie with Vince Vaughn where he's like Santa's brother ["Fred Claus"]. Not only do I pay for the movie, and there are only two other people other than us in this huge movie theater in Oklahoma City. I'm tired. This is the last movie I want to see. I don't even think I'd watch this when it came on Starz. Travis is asleep right after the credits, and I'm like, 'I'm being courteous. Travis wanted to see this. I'm dying. I'm watching it.' Finally I look over and I go, 'Dude! Get up. We're leaving. If you're going to sleep, I'm going back to the hotel.'

MTV: Did you watch the movie?
Rowe: No! We left. Pretty predictable.

MTV: What's your favorite movie then?
Rowe: That I could watch over and over again? It's about a seven-minute film of Mercedes at the classic.

MTV: Horse show?
Rowe: Horse show. That's my most recent favorite. But probably my most favorite of all time — it scares me even now. You're too young. Steven Spielberg's first film out of film school: "Duel" with Dennis Weaver. O-M-G. That movie will scare you because it's possible and it's terrifying. This guy — you never see his face — he drives a diesel and stalks this guy. You've never seen it? You have to!

MTV: Who's your favorite actor? Or actress?
Rowe: Actor, actress, alive or dead?

MTV: Either.
Rowe: I like the black-and-white movies. I like the Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, even though he was color, too. Barbara Stanwyck is probably my favorite actress because she reminds me of my grandmother. They looked exactly the same.

MTV: Does your family live in the area?
Rowe: My dad lives in France, near the Basque area. He's remarried to a lovely English woman, Magda, who, we've told my dad that if he ever gets divorced, we'll keep Magda and he can find a new family. We're moving on. We're all becoming English. My mother is in Los Angeles. We don't have a relationship. My sister is in Prescott, Arizona, in a beautiful area. When I was there she said, "Let's go look at property for you." So we went looking. Where she is, it's limited — you can only have so many horses per acre. I would want to live next door to her. We were always friends growing up.

MTV: Are you still close?
Rowe: Yeah, I adore her. I try to go out there every three weeks. Pack up a horse and, "I'm coming out!" The last show we went to, we got there at 2:00 in the afternoon. My horse didn't go till 8:30 at night. She stayed there the whole time. And my friend Casey has a place out there. The thought of moving horses — I just put these stalls up last year, so I'm just now getting comfortable here, so the thought of just taking everything there ... I can't do it. And Carmen wouldn't come. I'd have to get Carmen's whole family to go. Pack up the whole clan!

MTV: Let's back up. "Celebrity Apprentice," fan?
Rowe: That is my favorite show, reality-wise.

MTV: Why?
Rowe: I don't have the business gene. I just think it's amazing they have so little time to make something happen, and business just runs so fast, I don't know how these people keep up. I truly don't.

MTV: Do you not have the business mind or do you not have the cutthroat business sense?
Rowe: Both. Horses, this is the most expensive hobby next to sailing, so no I have none.

MTV: How much does a day in a life up here cost, just to keep running?
Rowe: The horses and stuff?

MTV: Everything.
Rowe: It's seasonal, because we have the breeding season and the babies. That happens, there's two big shows the beginning of the year in Arizona that we go to. Then we start having babies, then breed back within eight days what we call a full heat, so depending on the stallion, I'm still at the lower end, I pay anywhere between $2,000 and $3,000 for a breeding fee.

MTV: For one?
Rowe: For one. Because I don't know that some of the horses that are for $7,000, $10,000 are necessarily worth that. However, you go to the thoroughbred and it's 40, 50, $60,000 and that was just too scary for me. I thought about doing that and I got scared, so that's why I only have the one thoroughbred, and that horse was a gift from my vet. He got her, she ran on the track, she placed second twice, I believe, and then she didn't — she was fourth or fifth or something, and she had a metabolic issue where she couldn't race, she tied up. So he sold her, his wife wanted her so he had to buy her back, then he was going to get rid of her again, so I said why don't you just let me have her. I said you can't just discard an animal. Just because she's not gonna race does not mean she's not gonna produce well. Well, he's from Oklahoma. ... "I don't have the time to wait for that." [But] I do. Let me have her and she will always be your horse and she is his horse, and this baby that was born, if he decides that he wants to race this horse, that's his baby.

MTV: So on a typical day, what are we talking, or a week, a month?
Rowe: A month, on my place, or are we talking everything?

MTV: Everything.
Rowe: I have horses that are in Temecula, I have horses that are in Tejon, I have horses that are in Bakersfield.

MTV: Everything, the whole ball of wax in a month.
Rowe: Probably close to 25, $30,000 a month.

MTV: So you keep this up every day, just yourself, and you turn around ...
Rowe: No, I have two people and I have Carmen. If it wasn't for my trainers, if it wasn't for my vet, especially my vet. My vet has pointed me in the right direction. I mean, it was a lot more before I met Michael Sanders. And I met him because his card was on the refrigerator when I moved in and I had a sick horse, and I said call that vet that's on the refrigerator. He is probably one of the smartest people — and I know smart people, I love smart people — and that's ... I miss that part of L.A. Not that the people up here aren't intelligent, they are, but there aren't a lot of academic people up here, so I miss that part of L.A. But Michael Sanders is brilliant, I went to the Barrett Auction, which is the big thoroughbred auction. Alex Trebek was liquidating his barn and he had paint thoroughbreds — I had never seen a paint thoroughbred before — but I went with Dr. Sanders. I call him Dr. Sanders ... everybody calls him Mike, it's like no, you went to school, you're Dr. Sanders. A baby would walk out and he says, Tell me what's wrong with that baby." It's for sale, why does there have to be something wrong? "No, tell me what's wrong with that baby, look at those legs." He wants you to know what he knows.

MTV: So you learn from him, you're still learning from him every day?
Rowe: Every day, yeah, every day.

MTV: So you could do "Celebrity Apprentice," you've got the business sense, the ...
Rowe: No, I don't. I'm on a allowance, and they say please don't go over this. Like Oscar's horse needed a pretty halter.

MTV: Do you go over your allowance a lot?
Rowe: Yes, I do, but I'm getting better. The thing is that with the horse business, especially with breeding, you don't sell the babies right away, you don't see a profit even if you do. Now there are a ton of places that do turn a huge profit, but they've got stallions standing and whatever. If I broke even, I would be happy. I'm not doing it for the money.

MTV: Do you ever get nervous?
Rowe: Scared every ... all the time.

MTV: Are you financially safe up here?
Rowe: I think so. I hope so. If I'm not, I'm pretty screwed at this point if I'm not. In which case, Mr. Trump, can I answer phones? "Donald Trump's office, how can I help you?"

MTV: What about "American Idol"?
Rowe: Like I said, Uncle Bob's favorite show.

MTV: OK, who's your pick?
Rowe: I think the Australian guy.

MTV: Michael Johns.
Rowe: Yes. I think he has a good stage presence. Anybody that can do, in my opinion, cover tunes, cover songs, is a huge advantage. Because if you write your own music, those are your own interpretations, but to interpret someone else is difficult, I think.

MTV: Do you think he's an entertainer?
Rowe: I don't know that they allow them to entertain, because from what I've seen and when the camera's pulled back, you see the little X's on the floor. So they're only allowed to go from here to there, so I think they're really restricted. But the ones that have gone on, like Carrie Underwood, I think she is very talented. I don't know that she is, she's country music so I don't know how much of a performance it is. I guess we have to define what [is] performance versus entertaining, because there are so many different ... they're different things. I mean, you go to the Stones. Even if you hate the Rolling Stones, you have to go see them. If you hate the Grateful Dead, when Jerry Garcia was still alive, you had to go see them. Just for the experience of the people, cuz it's not just going to the concert and seeing them. I don't like concerts — I love Fleetwood Mac, but I would never go see them in concert.

MTV: Did you ever see Michael in concert?
Rowe: Yeah.

MTV: How many times?
Rowe: Lots of times.

MTV: Did you go on tour, did you see that life?
Rowe: Yes, and it was amazing. Could I do it, no.

MTV: Is it scary, is it suffocating?
Rowe: I think it depends if you choose it or not. If you choose it, it's not, because it comes with the territory. From the outside looking in, it's overwhelming and you wonder how people can deal with it but it's nothing I want to do.

MTV: Yeah, you have to be thick-skinned for that.
Rowe: Yeah, you have to be thick-skinned for anything you do, which is why I'm scared to actually ... saying out loud that I want to do something, because I'm harder on myself than anyone else is. Because I do know what I can do and what I'm capable of doing and I'm afraid of disappointing myself. I'm not afraid of disappointing anybody else, just myself.

MTV: When Michael's onstage, there's just thousands of people screaming at him, did you ever ...
Rowe: That, I think, with anybody who's been in that situation it's, I can understand where you can get the rush, even in a studio situation. Like "American Idol," where they don't have, they've gotta have like maybe 50 people in that studio the way they've got it set up. It might be bigger, I don't know. But the soundstage is not huge, huge, huge. And you figure the stage takes up half of it, but even for them to play to an intimate [audience], to have those people that want to hear you that badly, that to me, you got it. But you've got to put out, and what if you don't put out? Look who you're going to disappoint, and then you are going to feel so crummy. "I could have done better."

MTV: Would you ever want that?
Rowe: No. That's the rub with the horse competition. In theory it's you and the horse. But the fact is that you've got all these other competitors, trainers and people watching so I need to get over that. I told my one trainer, Donny Bricker, who wears pink when he rides my pink horse — I think he thinks I'm insane. I said, "Donny this is what I want to do. I want to take Booker and I want to ride him to the end of the year and then I want to get a new horse that is more horse than that but something I can handle to go to Oklahoma City." And he said, "OK, where do you want to show?" "I want to show at the shows nobody watches." He started laughing and said, "How are you going to do that?" Fortunately his wife is on my side and she said there's Green Grass or green something where they show show then reining at the end when everyone's gone. The class that I'm in is at the end of the show, when everyone's tired and has already gone home.

MTV: So you've got the competition with nobody watching?
Rowe: I'm hoping. A girl can dream.

MTV: How many competitions have you been in?
Rowe: Right now, none. I haven't competed as an adult. I competed as a kid on barrels and stuff but not as an adult.

MTV: Are you going to?

Rowe: Yeah. My one trainer wanted me to. It's so pathetic, I can't have just one trainer, I have to have three. But I take everyone's opinion into account because people know, but they know different things for different reasons. One trainer won't take one horse, but another trainer can make that horse into something. So they move around. Literally, I have a posse.

MTV: You have an entourage, you are somebody, Debbie Rowe.
Rowe: I'm Debbie Rowe. I'm a horse breeder. I'm painted desert ranch. Matika, get your face out of the bucket! Look pretty! Matika [She whistles.]! Yeah, she's so into this, she started this whole nightmare. What was your question?

MTV: I think it was competiton, but... Rowe: I was supposed to be in a competition at the end of this month. It was supposed to be my first competition, but with the babies I haven't been able to. October.

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Comic-Con 2009 Preview: 'New Moon,' 'Iron Man 2' And More

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 03:39 AM PDT

We give you a rundown of what to expect at the year's biggest and best pop-culture fest!
By Larry Carroll


Robert Pattinson at the 2008 San Diego Comic-Con
Photo: Albert L. Ortega/ WireImage

Every summer, the Hollywood Santa leaves the North Pole for San Diego. He slips down the Convention Center chimney for four very special days, leaving good geeks exclusive treats, never-before-seen footage and movie-star encounters. They call it Comic-Con, and it is Christmas for movie lovers.

Once again, your MTV Movies team is getting ready to cover the Con like no one else can. From preview night until the last stormtrooper turns out the light, we'll be providing extensive coverage across our Web site and blogs. To give you a peek inside our planning, here are the top 10 panels we're eager to see — be sure to keep it here July 23-26 for the latest news. (Keep in mind that all times are PT, and if you see MTV there be sure to give us a Vulcan salute, OK?)

"New Moon" (Thursday at 1:45 p.m., Hall H) — As anyone who owns the DVD has seen in the bonus features, "Twilight" mania erupted last year at Comic-Con, as the seemingly little-known film inspired die-hards to line up in record numbers. Now, San Diego is ready for "New Moon" mania, and our own Hollywood Crush will even be embedding a reporter to camp out with the Twilighters, providing up-to-the-minute experiences while waiting in line. As your home for all things "Twilight," you can trust MTV to be all over this panel like Jasper Hale on Bella's bloody finger. The cast of "Astro Boy" and "Sorority Row" will also be participating in the panel, answering such probing questions as "When will Robert Pattinson walk onstage?"

"Disney: 3D Panel" (Thursday at 11:00 a.m., Hall H) — The first-ever 3-D presentation to be held at the Con, this panel features Robert Zemeckis presenting footage from "A Christmas Carol," Tim Burton bringing us goodies from "Alice in Wonderland" and the "Tron" sequel returning triumphantly to the place where it made such an impact last summer. As if all that isn't enough, funnyman/ movie buff Patton Oswalt will moderate.

"Avatar" (Thursday at 3:00 p.m., Hall H) — The single most-anticipated panel at Comic-Con not including Robert Pattinson has legendary filmmaker James Cameron finally presenting footage from the top-secret December flick that marks his first proper film since 1997's "Titanic." Joined by his producer and castmembers likely to include Sigourney Weaver, Zoe Saldana and others, geeks will finally get a peek at the developing technology Cameron has been touting for more than a decade.

"Sony Pictures" (Saturday at 2:45 p.m., Hall H) — "2012" is promising to end civilization as we know it. "Zombieland" has, well, zombies. What more do you need?

"Iron Man 2" (Saturday at 4:00 p.m., Hall H) — Director Jon Favreau loves Comic-Con so much that he cut a spellbinding clip reel together for the San Diego geeks, ran it multiple times to rapturous applause and built a buzz that led to more than $300 million at the box office for last year's "Iron Man." Now, Favs is hard at work on the sequel and will be bringing the cast back to the Con. Geeks will be betting their limited-edition phaser guns that he'll show a lot more than a promotional still. Be sure to keep an eye on our Splash Page blog, where we'll be posting up-to-the-minute updates on such comic-based flicks as this one, "Kick-Ass," "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World" and "Dead of Night."

"Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day" (Saturday at 3:30 p.m., Room 6DE) — You haven't seen a die-hard fan until you've met the loyalists who kneel at the feet of this 1999 cult classic. Now, the Saints are back — and unpredictable writer/director Troy Duffy is sure to have some choice words for Hollywood.

"Warner Bros." (Friday at 10:00 a.m., Hall H) — WB has a strong slate of upcoming films including "Where the Wild Things Are," "Jonah Hex," "Sherlock Holmes" and "A Nightmare on Elm Street." Oh, and did I mention that Megan Fox might get the geeks' attention by dressing up like slave-girl Princess Leia?

"9" (Friday at 2:30 p.m., Hall H) — Produced by Tim Burton and "Wanted" director Timur Bekmambetov — and from the studio that brought us the eye-dazzling "Coraline" earlier this year — this 9.9.09 movie could be something special. Stars Elijah Wood and Jennifer Connelly will be at the panel, along with a ton of new footage.

"Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs" (Thursday at 2:00 p.m., Room 6BCF) — It's a movie aimed primarily at kids, but the trailer looks cool in a Pixar sort of way. And with Anna Faris, Bill Hader and Andy Samberg appearing in person, something tells us that the panel will become riotously R-rated very quickly.

"The Visionaries" (Friday at 6:30 p.m., Hall H) — They see the cinematic world unlike anyone else, and in this geek-tastic discussion sponsored by Entertainment Weekly magazine, Peter Jackson and James Cameron will give us a sneak peek at the future of film. The directing duo behind the "Lord of the Rings" and "Terminator" franchises — as well as so many other classics — will engage in a rare conversation about the cutting-edge technology, narrative breakthroughs and home-entertainment options that will transform Hollywood in the years to come. Believe it or not, it's the first time Jackson has ever attended the world's greatest Con.

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